Originally by: Uzume Ame

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Nozh is a shared trolling gamebalance account, unpopular decissions are announced by him for damage control measures.

This patch = terribad, CCP devs = terribad. First they announce the ****up of system upgrades & upkeep, they are clueless: lvl4 rewards for much more risk. Also they "rebalance" moongoo to swap two bottlenecks (Dyspro/Prom) by one which will be even stronger (Technetium). Then they 're-rebalance' supercaps from soemthing unoriginal and crappy to soemthing compelttly worthless, in addition they **** MS pilots scamming them for 10 bill. (more than 300 bucks vallue, you must be proud of it CCP).


CCP, so clueless, it's hard to make things worse. At this pace you will pull a NGE soon, gratz!

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Originally by: Bagdon

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Originally by: CCP Nozh

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Hey,

We've made some further changes to super carriers after taking your feedback into consideration. It's quite understandable that the changes made were a disappointment to many of you, but I wanted to remind you that Singularity is a test server and all changes, even these are subject to change.

Compact Citadel Torpedo Changes:

• Explosion Velocity: 60


• Damage: 3200

Super Carrier Changes:

• Can deploy 2 additional Fighter or Drone per level


• Can dock at stations

Furthermore we're looking into solutions to reimburse current mothership pilots for the drop in construction cost.

That's all for now.

-Nozh

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You guys should really have your accounts disabled when you're out drinking.

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Originally by: TZeer

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Edited by: TZeer on 14/11/2009 13:22:50
I`m out of words...

You had:
- Ship that cost 16-20 Bil ( limiting factor )
- Not dockable ( another limiting factor )
- Did 2x Damage then normal carrier with drones and fighters
- Had a REAL anti capital weapon in the fighter bombers

Now you have:
- Ship that costs 7-10 Bil ( More people can afford it )
- Dockable ( No need for a dedicated character )
- Combat ship that will also work as a logistic ship, I guess many will use it as one ( 2,5 mil ship array, can bring your own personal hangar everywhere you go )
- Massive HP buffer, hello undock/docking games
- EW immune, no way to break their spider tank.


So basically CCP used 2 months with testing, got good feedback. No words at all that they where looking at such drastic chahnges. Then suddenly 2 weeks before expansion they turn everything upside down. Makes them basically useless. And now, 3 days later they suddenly gives the "thumbs up" to make em dock. And opening a whole new can of worms in the process...

You are now making the supercarrier all that will be needed in fleets or large engagements.

Get 30 supercarriers, worth about 180 bil, chump change for a big alliance, spider tank the crap out of each other and you are looking at ships with 30-40 mil EHP, with a 90000 DPS spidertank. And about 45000 DPS damage if everyone can field 15 fighters.



Some numbers for fun:

Average DPS from a sniping BS is about 350 to 400 DPS. Lets say 400 DPS. With a 90000 DPS spider tank, you would need 225 BS just to get even with the tank. With an average volley damage of 3000, you do 675000 in volley damage...

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Originally by: Clone 1

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Docking supercarriers ? Are you completely mad?

This was discussed for a few seconds at the capital roundtable at fanfest, and rightly so laughed off as insane by the dev at the table. It was mentioned that maybe, and really maybe that an upgrade to outposts would allow these ships to dock, but would cost a lot.

How can you go from this sanity to the complete and utter tripe that you propose just weeks before patch?

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Originally by: Ka'lorn Font'a

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Edited by: Ka''lorn Font''a on 14/11/2009 20:58:44
Why change what isn't broken?

Abathur's proposed, and tested changes were fine. If there are concerns with Fighter damage being too excessive, then reduce the damage that those 20 fighters would do to the level of what 15 fighters do.

There's no need to screw over the fact that Motherships can deploy 20 fighters/drones (fighters are fine, drones are fine, neither were ever considered overpowered).

By allowing Motherships to dock, you are opening a huge can of worms which, to be frank - should have been thrown out the design meeting the second it was raised.

Nor should the price be changed, there's 400+ Motherships around EVE as it is currently (probably closer to 1000, including alts/in production), you don't want 5000+ of them running around (which is what will happen, if the proposed cost reductions are implemented). If you can't see much of a bad idea injecting trillions of ISK into the economy is (10b x current number of mothership pilots), then I wonder what exactly you've been smoking in the office as of late.

I actually feel sorry for Sel/Abathur, as he has expertise in this area that - I'm willing to bet, would blow the combined experience of the rest of the development team out of the water.

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Originally by: Seishi Maru

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OI bet this idea came form the same person that had the idea to NERF the naglfar to a status worse than it was last year. 5% damage per level and 5% missiles rof per level.

WTF? What is goign on at CCP gama belance department?

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